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December, 3, 2009

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1. Fire Prep Topics of Interest – Getting Passed Over?

Captain Bob,

I was one month from being hired for a notable fire department in Washington when I received a letter stating that I was NOT recommended for hire. I had taken the medical, psych, and turned in the background packet. I had been interviewed by the background investigator, with the opportunity to answer any questions about my background. I had even been fitted for turnouts! I received the letter and have been struggling to find out why. Let me give you a little background with me and this department.

I worked on their city ambulance, in the fire station for over two years with NO disciplinary actions for misconduct. I work for them as an administration Reserve Firefighter, after I had already passed my Chief's interview. The Captain calling all my references was one of my Station Captains while I was on the ambulance. So when I was failed out you can imagine my shock. No one could give me any answers. H.R. told me to call the two-division chief's in charge of the hiring process. I called, left 3 messages with no response. I called the Captain that I had worked with and all he could say was that he could not say, on or off the record. Finally I called and left a message with THE Chief of the department. His representative called back and said that it was not my psych, nor my medical, and that something or a combination of things is why I was not recommended for hire. He said he could be specific. I want to know what recourse I have in finding out what it was that failed me. I don't want to keep running into the same wall with future departments. What do you recommend I do? The background was not that extensive. Just employment, friends/coworkers, old roommates, driving record (totally clean), nothing major. Any direction you could send me in the better. Thank you, Kevin


I'm sorry.  Unfortunately there is nothing you can do to reverse what has taken place when you are in background or on probation.  Whatever the reason or reasons (you may really never find out), you did not meet the standards or culture of the department.  Having the opportunity to be around a department, on an ambulance or a volunteer, where they can get to know you does not always work in your favor.  I know some great volunteers who are still grasping onto the dream that they will still be hired.  But they have stayed too long at the fair and don't have a prayer of seeing a badge.  They would have been better off testing as an unknown walk on.  It's tough being a prophet in your own town.

You can become too familiar with the department and the personnel and unknowingly overstep the bounds.  If you have not already established a natural bridge to be accepted some firefighters, without you knowing it, will react by tanking you.  Yep, just like a bunch of old ladies.  You will never know what happened.

"No good deed goes unpunished." New rookies can often make fatal errors in trying to be accepted or try to impress their fellow firefighters.  They forget they are snotty nose rookies. You need to keep your mouth shut, be cordial, friendly and humble. You have no time or opinion until you earn it. You can't force it. That will come with a lot of calls and a few fires.

As Captain Paul Lepore so accurately put it:  Even if he or she is successful in the academy setting their true colors will come out during the probationary period. The firefighters in the station have a unique way of weeding out those that may not belong.

My best advice is to take a step back, lick your wounds, take responsibility for what happened, regroup and try testing for other departments.  If you have been let go in probation or fired by a department, it will be difficult but not impossible to find a better fit; especially if you are a medic.


Understand that the best way to get hired is to place yourself in a position where they can't go around you. If you have the attitude that the system is against you, that you are being passed over because of minority and women being hired, you are psyching yourself out.

If you have this attitude in your mind and your heart, it will be difficult to get hired. Because this will show in the oral board. It will show when your start to squirm during your answers on cultural diversity. Especially if there is a woman on your oral board panel. I've seen guys with great credentials get tanked here. Women have that sixth sense that can smell out a phony.

Haven't you noticed this in your relationships?

You can continue to piss and moan and focus on other reasons why you think you don't have the badge. In reality there is only one person keeping you from getting the badge . . . Believe it or not . . . It's you!

Stop looking in a magnifying glass at others' and start looking in the mirror at yourself.

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